Wild Speculation Alert: Is Bill Working for the AVL/The Authority? Plus: A Brief Bill History

This post is dedicated to my reader Freyja/Missy who discussed this with me:

Who is Bill Compton? Who is this vampire who suddenly appeared at Merlotte’s and “just-so-happened” to spot our telepathic heroine Sookie?

All but the most casual of Eric Northman fans are fluent in the knowledge that Bill most likely had an agenda before he arrived in Bon Temps that probably included “procuring” Sookie for Queen Sophie-Ann or someone else but most likely QSA. If you need information concerning this, Sunnynala @ sunnynala.wordpress.com goes into plenty of details concerning this and Bill Compton’s murderous history so I will make this history brief but explanatory.

1. Bill Compton went on a murderous and sadistic rampage with his maker Lorena (that he certainly looked like he enjoyed despite what he might say to her or to us, the audience)…presumably from 1865-1935 (70 years!) The Blu Ray Commentary confirms the murders in Chicago were a common habit.

2. Bill probably hung out with Liam, Diane, Malcolm off and on since the late 30’s (1×03) till they burned in the fire (1×08).

3. Bill told Russell he “procured” for QSA for the last 35 years  (maybe he started doing this between 1973-1975 until present) (which seems to imply he was still currently doing that, probably to Sookie, which we already know).  Somehow, Russell thinks that means go kidnap people to my/your employer’s specifications (which was QSA). Coincidence? I think not.

Now for the wild theory about the AVL/Authority connection:

 Could Bill working for the American Vampire League (which I have established in a facade/interest group for The Authority) or The Authority itself?

Shock and Anger and Thoughtfulness overwhelms Bill’s face after Russell questions the magister’s authority (tight facial muscles, lowered chin, staring, slanted eyebrows)

Why would Bill care about a magister who had him make an unwanted vampire child? Maybe because he works for the people that hired him (the authority or the facade of the authority..the AVL…just a thought…Maybe he started “mainstreaming” on the surface for more reasons than just to protect Sooke? Again, just a wild idea.

Eric seemed skeptical about this “mainstreaming” though, not only once but twice. Maybe because Eric not only knew that Bill was still killing but maybe because he knew Bill had views about vampire superiority (kinda like the The Authority and the AVL really do, according to my theory about the AVL and The Authority).

Eric Northman: “If you’re their poster boy, the mainstreaming movement is in deep trouble…”

 Eric Northman: “Mainstreaming. I heard…”

(humor and skepticism is written all over Eric’s face both times: he smiles!)

All of this could just mean that Bill is a huge hypocrite, which we already knew. So how do I tie this into season 3 other than Bill’s odd facial expression that I already pointed out?

***FINALE SPOILER PIC BELOW***

If you look closely you can see Eric is in handcuffs and Bill is not.

Clearly Eric is being punished for some reason if he is wearing handcuffs, particularly ones that look to be silver. The only people who would be out to punish him would be the people who know about his involvement in the magister’s disappearance (which we know is coming).  QSA would not openly punish him even though he joined with Russell because she is marrying the King and so those kingdoms/queendoms will unite and they are currently betrothed). Why would Bill be helping to carry out the punishment unless he was working for those that were punishing Eric, not just Queen Sophie Ann? Bill might end up betraying the people he works for to help Eric (or really Sookie) but the fact remains he was trusted to carry out the punishment and/or arrest Eric.

Therefore, it is very likely that Bill Compton is working for The Authority/AVL too if he is carrying out this punishment.

Clearly Bill is ambitious and his ambition might extend past “procuring” people for monarchs. How much higher could you get than working with the agenda of “The Authority” or its facade, the AVL? It beats running a cactus plantation for sure.

Also, Maybe Bill is so confident about himself despite seemingly having no reason to on the surface because of this  (not just because he is impulsive and not all that bright).

At the very least, Bill has also heard about how Eric and Russell were discussing the magister’s irrelevance and could provide his testimony in a possible trial or investigation …and if we really want to get crazy…(maybe he was specifically chosen to scout out the queen and Eric because of his relationship with both of them or maybe he went back to LA to investigate both of them or one of them in the first place, however he had to do work for one or both of them in order to gain the trust needed to gain access to the queen’s secrets and/or Eric’s secrets)

(Then again, this just could be fan fiction and totally wrong. But it seemed like an interesting idea..haha)

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  1. #1 by Freyja on July 31, 2010 - 9:26 am

    I love this theory TTB! I was suspicious when Bill made those faces when Eric and Russell were talking about the magister and also about the fact that Bill knew about the queens financial debts, the problems with the IRS and the fact that Bill also believed that it was the queen that had Eric sell the blood. How would Bill know all this? This doesn’t sound like something that a normal servant of the queen would know! I don’t even think Eric knew about the IRS, he looked surprised and outraged when the queen mantioned it in Fangtasia.
    In SSN Bill is investigator for the queen. In TB he could be an investigator / a spy for The Authority.
    It has also been on my mind that ‘mainstreaming’ line from Eric and the mocking smile and tone he used when talking to Bill. They clearly have some history between them and Eric probably knows all about Bills behavior through the decades.
    Bill is too confident in his dealings with Eric, the queen, the magister and even Russell… why is a 170 yo vampire so cocky and sure of himself around his superiors? Is it just because he’s stupid? Or because he’s sure of his position with AVL and he’s protected maybe?
    The finale pics are somewhat unsettling. Bill has blue gloves on and in one pic he looks like he’s putting handcuffs on Eric, and in another one it’s possible he’s pushing Eric into the cement grave. If this is Erics sentence for killing the magister or Talbot or his involvement in the V dealings then why is Bill there?

    • #2 by talktrueblood on July 31, 2010 - 4:34 pm

      OH YEAH! Bill had WAY TOO MUCH information about QSA than the audience would reasonably believe he would know so he has to be keeping something and obviously he is keen investigator himself to be able to keep such a file on Sookie a complete secret and also in a hidden room! Russell also must have had some reason to suspect that he was “privy to the queen’s secrets” and Bill must be pretty confident about his position to turn down a position as sheriff under Russell so easily(make no mistake that Bill is ambitious). There has to be more to it all than Bill being stupid, especially if Ball thinks enough of him to be a star and it is reasonable to assume that Bill is not going to be with Sookie for the entire show so there has to be another reason he would be a star other than being Sookie’s boyfriend/fiancee and keeping a file on her for the queen…

      I think AB might have amped up Bill’s game by making him a master procurer and an investigator for more than just the queen as well.

      That is how I tie this all in. Why else would Bill be carrying out this punishment? Bill that is supposedly worthy of eternal suspicion by the magister…stupid, reckless Bill. What other reason could there be?

  2. #3 by Bobsgran on July 31, 2010 - 10:47 am

    This is great TTB. In the book, Dead Until Dark, at some sort of regional meeting, Bill is elected to a position of Investigator. He does this so that Eric has no real dominion over him and Sookie. Your theory certainly fits that “spirit” of the books AB is always touting.

  3. #4 by sunnynala on July 31, 2010 - 2:13 pm

    TTB, I share your suspicions.

    Some Eric fans might be resistant to the idea of Bill holding a ‘prestigious’ or powerful position in the hierarchy, but I look at this possible development as making Bill much more sinister, an endeavor I am ALWAYS down for. 😀

    If he’s a spy, he’s a very bad one. He has no impulse control whatsoever and a spy must be very cool and in control of himself. I think he may just be a thug, an assassin/enforcer.

    • #5 by Bobsgran on July 31, 2010 - 2:56 pm

      If he is an enforcer, then he sure would be older than a mere 170 yrs. It wouldn’t make sense to have a young fella trying to take out vamps, if he wasn’t strong enough, fast enough etc. to do the job.

      • #6 by talktrueblood on July 31, 2010 - 3:23 pm

        I am also sure that Russell’s guard probably was older than 170 years or had to be just as old and he easily took that guy out…

      • #7 by talktrueblood on July 31, 2010 - 3:52 pm

        True, but Pam could possibly be trusted with one of those jobs (of course she has a more level head than Bill) and she is presumably younger than Bill.
        However, there has to be something up with Bill that would tie him into the larger plot than just being a “procurer” for QSA that somehow happened to have to procure Sookie as well, especially if Bill is to remain a main character and is not involved with Sookie.

      • #8 by LLE on July 31, 2010 - 4:10 pm

        True Blood is a soap opera and Bill will have a family that he did not know he had like Terry, Andy, and Andy’s sister. AB even mention that Andy will find out he’s relative to someone that he did not know.

        After Bill’s breakup, Bill will get a girlfriend and stalk Sookie. Sookie lives next door to Bill and he is her neighbor and AB will give Bill a story besides stalking Sookie.

    • #9 by talktrueblood on July 31, 2010 - 4:08 pm

      Eric fans should remember that Eric does not want further authority (beyond being a sheriff) anymore than he wanted to be a king right after his father died. Eric could go as far as being a king (he is older than QSA), maybe more, if he kept his emotions under wraps. What? Eric has emotions….SHOCKER..I know not to you. hhaha

      Eric is really a simple man/vampire in my estimation. He just wants a good source of income (fangtasia), good sex, good food/blood, children (pam) and a good woman (sookie). He was not ambitious with QSA. He just did whatever he had to in order to remian sheriff and shut the queen up so he could do his thing (unfortunately that included selling V).

      I am all for making Bill more sinister too not only because it would be one more lie that Bill is keeping from Sookie but because it would make him more interesting as well.
      He could be working for them in any capacity at all. He doesn’t necessarily need to be a full blow spy. Like I said, at the very least, he could be turning against everyone later if he wasn’t already involved with them as a witness against Eric and Russell (atleast on the surface).

      • #10 by LLE on July 31, 2010 - 4:16 pm

        Eric in the books did not want to be king but we really don’t know what Eric on the show wants to be king or not. Eric’s family was killed when he was young guy. Thousand years later, Eric promised his father revenge on who’s responsible for killing family. After the revenge story end, will he ends up being a king.

      • #11 by talktrueblood on July 31, 2010 - 5:02 pm

        Well in the true blood pre-show Eric suggested he was more interested in “pursuing other interests” like Sookie.
        Maybe Eric is interested in being king…idk…but he has given no indication of that interest so far and I have no reason to suspect that he would so far. He seems perfectly content with Fangtasia and his territory. I think he could have challenged for the queen’s position, especially since she seems to not be very well respected (and for good reason) but he has chosen not to do so.

  4. #12 by LLE on July 31, 2010 - 2:51 pm

    If Bill is a spy, Bill is a bad one. Bill is an idiot to be a spy. Bill is a serial killer.

    • #13 by talktrueblood on July 31, 2010 - 4:41 pm

      No doubt that Bill is a serial killer…haha
      However, he could come off as stupid and reckless because he has gotten a big head and is over confident about his power/position.

  5. #14 by Enjoying on July 31, 2010 - 4:07 pm

    Yes he works for AVL have though this sinces he was out side the queens he talk to Eric .That is why he had to make a child and be put in silver for 5 years . A s we all been talking about Bill age on AP he’s older then 170 year s and we all trying to fine out hes real name .Name change in the Vamps world is when ever they need to .Nan and Bill know each other

    • #15 by talktrueblood on July 31, 2010 - 4:38 pm

      Very good point about name changes in the vamp world. I wondered about ALL of that myself. It is also very suspicious and connects.

  6. #16 by thenorthmanfiles on July 31, 2010 - 5:36 pm

    Well, this is just mind-boggling. What a GREAT theory!! LOVE IT!!! While all the examples you gave were spot on and very “credible,” the one thing that has always bugged me about Bill (well, there are LOTS OF THINGS) was the way he TALKS TO ERIC.

    Eric is his Sheriff, his superior. He has earned and demands respect. Yet, Bill constantly has a condescending and sanctimonious attitude toward Eric when he speaks to him. And he seems confident/arrogant about it when he does it! And why Eric lets him get away with it I have no idea (oh, wait. I know. Because AB won’t let Eric actually play Sheriff toward his underlings…especially when it’s Bill.) So the fact that Bill can/does work for the AVL would give him that confidence to speak to his superior Sheriff the way he does because he thinks he can get away with it.

    I’m not sure if that made any sense, but I just wanted to comment on your wild FABULOUS theory and give you a possible example to add to yours.

    • #17 by talktrueblood on July 31, 2010 - 6:26 pm

      Thank you!

      I think Eric is in part afraid of alienating Sookie if he punishes Bill in a severe way and I agree about Bill’s shocking amounts of disrespect toward Eric (which might simply be because Eric is disrespecting Bill’s “ownership” of Sookie…**barf**). However, I obviously agree with you that it is very likely there is something hidden that is giving Bill all this confidence (and it is all not about Bill’s stupidity or recklessness, which is too boring and obvious).

      That is in part why I wrote this in the article:
      “Also, Maybe Bill is so confident about himself despite seemingly having no reason to on the surface because of this (not just because he is impulsive and not all that bright).”

      However, you certainly elaborated on my point there. Bill does have an undeserved air of superiority (or so it seems). There just has to be another reason.
      Thank you for the awesome comment : ))

      • #18 by LLE on August 6, 2010 - 11:47 pm

        Last season Bill got way with a lot of things and Eric let him do it. I had feeling Bill was favorite of the Queen and that why he let Bill get way with things. It had nothing to do with Sookie.

        Before Bill was kidnapped, Eric order Bill to be pick up and Eric was to take care of Bill orders from the Queen.

  7. #19 by just an opinionated hack on July 31, 2010 - 6:26 pm

    This sounds like a wild conspiracy theory from an anti-Bill person with an axe to grind…..I think the one thing that makes Bill a better creature than Eric is that bill does have some sense of humanity. Well, at least he did until Lorena took it all away from him. However, Eric was a killer by profession as a human, and he retains this bloodlust (no pun intended) in his vampire life.

    I think you Eric lovers need to stop coming up with these insane theories that make little to no sense simply because you want to make Bill look bad. We didn’t do it to you, why shit all over us because we like Bill?

    Much love,
    JAOH

    • #20 by talktrueblood on July 31, 2010 - 6:49 pm

      Hey Bill Lover : ))

      I doubt Bill can blame Lorena for everthing. He has had plenty of time to recover from Lorena’s influence and find his own way but continued killing and “procuring” women for his own financial/personal benefit.

      They were both soldiers/warriors. Bill also did not garner the same sense of loyalty from others and did not give others the same sense of loyalty on the battlefield either ( I wonder why). Bill always got sadistic as he killed as a vampire, it is all buisness with Eric. Bill just obviously enjoys killing but is such a hypocrite he blames it on Lorena.

      I doubt all soldiers lose their humanity and if you want to use that argument against Eric, you will need to use it against Bill as well.

      Also, Bill lovers certainly do everything they can to make Eric look bad too…including coming up with ridiculous arguments such as your’s.

      I admitted my theory might not be true but I did back it up with evidence, which is more than I can say for your ideas.

    • #21 by Christine on August 1, 2010 - 12:17 am

      JAOH,

      It takes more effort to be a pro-bill fan because you’d have to purposely ignore the evidence that bill is a homocidal maniac.

      Eric was a killer by profession? You’re confusing Eric with James Bond. Eric was a Viking warrior – that’s the way it was in those days. And he didn’t take up that role until his father was murdered. It would be more accurrate to say that Eric’s profession before his father’s death was “Trying to live his life between the legs of a woman”. He was a lover not a fighter. 😉 Watch the show and see the evidence.

      The difference between Eric lovers and Bill lovers are, Eric lovers look at the facts, use their brains and dig deep. Bill lovers hang on his every word and take him at face value.

      Look to your Vamp – he’s dark, secretive, hides things, flighty, lies , is deceitful, has caused Sookie endless pain. He’s a puss hiding behind vagaries and sidestepping direct questions with ambiguity and has no authority.

      Look to our Sheriff, he’s direct, up front, painfully honest, he has *honor and integrity*. Eric constantly comes to Sookies aid without being the cause of the problem. He’s confident, in control, level headed, takes responsibility for his child and all those beneath him including Bill the flunky.

      Bottom line: Eric lovers use their brain, Bill lovers do not. Sadly…

      You’re welcome to use yours and come over.

      • #22 by talktrueblood on August 1, 2010 - 12:33 am

        very beautifully said Christine

    • #23 by Feather on August 1, 2010 - 12:28 am

      come to the dark side.

      we’ve got vikings 🙂

    • #24 by LLE on August 6, 2010 - 11:54 pm

      When Eric was human, his men respected Eric and stood by him when he was dying and so the wolves would not eat Eric. I did not see that with Bill when he mention Civil War.

      Eric kills for survival and Bill kills for pleasure.

      • #25 by talktrueblood on August 7, 2010 - 2:58 am

        Exactly!

        Eric killls when he has to. Bill kills because he is a sadist.

  8. #26 by just an opinionated hack on August 1, 2010 - 1:39 am

    To Christine and TTB:

    Christine: I can see your point re: eric and Bill about women. Bill was not surrounded by slatterns during his normal life, while eric looked for them. Bill’s life was, in essence, hijacked from him. Womanizing and sex for fun and degredation was eric’s MO. However, Bill was the quintessential family man. Look at how he mourned for his child, even after being converted. Look how he felt for his wife. His life wasn’t about sex in pools of blood and needless, senseless violence until he met Lorena, who, in my opinion, is the most truly evil person on the show. Bill was mutated by her, and I feel no remorse for being a Bill fan.

    and for TTB: The same goes for you that goes for Christine, except you’re the one who posted this, to make Bill look bad ;).

    Both of you have a great night!
    JAOH

    • #27 by Christine on August 1, 2010 - 2:20 am

      Hi JAOH,

      We can all take the road of blaming someone else for our past and live in the past. But as Adults we lay down those childish things and we make our own “present”. We should no longer be bound to what was – we can make our own choices and move forward.

      Eric is Eric and makes no pretense to “mainstreaming”. And neither did Eric really have a choice while alive and healthy in becoming a vampire. It was in the throes of death that he was turned. Now, if you have read the books, you’ll realize that book Eric was a married man with 6 children. TB hasn’t shown that part yet and they may not. You saw the youthful lusty prince.

      You have NO idea about Bill prior to the war and his turning. He could have been just as freely sowing his seed as Eric. Bill had no qualms about helping Sookie become an “un-virgin”, and Mr Quintessential Family Man wasn’t married to her when he procured her for himself, so lets not argue about Eric’s OR Bill’s virtue….I don’t think that has any bearing.

      We still have Bill pointing his lofty finger and critisizing Eric for his nature and for not mainstreaming and yet just like most extremely religious sects that hide a lot, Bill has not stopped procuring for the Queen – or himself. Bill in this day and time lives a life of lies and deceit – a total hypocrite. How can you defend him? He is NO longer that southern gentleman with a family. Lorena didn’t “force” Bill to dine on the Stripper. If he’s so stalwart, why didn’t he say, “no thank you”, or just leave the vehicle? It was an invitation, not an order.

      There are so many legitimate accusations against Bill, with proof. RE doesn’t believe him. Bill is lying about keeping a portfolio on Sookie. He doesn’t honor his Sheriff and he’s working behind Eric’s back and for what? Well, for what matters most to Bill, Bill.

      p.s. I started out in the books and was stuck on Bill and Sookie’s supposed romance. But I always felt like something was wrong. He was intimate with her but distant. There was something wrong in the communication arena and as I kept reading, I began to see the writing on the wall. It was hard to let go of B&S. When Eric became more prominant in the books, he was direct – and it bugged me at first. There’s nothing less flattering than a man proposing sex for the sake of sex. It’s no compliment because “most” men will bed any-one….but something began to happen. There was a chemistry there. “Feelings” began to arise. To himself Eric was honest, to herself Sookie was in denial.

      So we’re back to bad boy Eric making his intentions known, and
      Saintly Bill, who lies, cheats, witholds, and murders in secret.

      Give me the bad boy with his intentions up front anyday. It’s too much trouble digging through the trash bin mind of the psychopathic killer trying to figure out what he wants.

      You have a great evening as well.

    • #28 by talktrueblood on August 1, 2010 - 2:21 am

      You have a good night too haha

      But anyway, I don’t see how the redhead that worked for his parents was a slattern, they just enjoyed having sexual relations with eachother…that doesn’t maker her a slattern/prostitute.

      Well anyway you look at it Bill cannot control himself obviously so he shouldn’t be around her…wait till next week

    • #29 by Sarah on August 1, 2010 - 6:27 pm

      I am not a radical feminist but when I hear the term “slattern” I feel the little viking inside of me waving his battle axe 🙂 I believe in female empowerment and in the right of every human to arrange his (private) life as he wants as long he does not deliberately hurt others. Eric enjoys sex like his lovers do (the maidservant in the flashback obviously enjoyed a little fun during her presumably hard and often burdensome life!).
      Concerning Bill: Do you know the legal status of women in his time? Women had little more rights then the cattle and legally were their husbands´ properties. They seldom married their great loves but even when their husband were brutes who raped and hit them they had little possibility to leave. And this were the privileged ones. Don´t even ask about the fate of female slaves or prostitutes. Please, do not paint this time in a gloryfied light, it was a real damn time to be a woman, believe me.
      Humanity: I agree with you that Bill was turned by force, but honestly in how many cases do you think the “victim” was asked before the turning? I can understand that Bill would miss his family but after some decades his family was dead and as human he would have been deceased, too. After all, Vampirism can also be seen as gift, as chance to explore the world (like Eric and Godric did) and to collect wisedom and knowledge. But Bill decided to hate his fate and to punish the whole world for it by joining Lorena in their mayhems. Instead of being a mass murderer he could have staked himself or met the sun. By the way, how do you explain the fact that after leaving Lorena (supposedly disgusted by their deeds) he had nothing better to do than joining the trio infernale, Malcom, Diane and Liam. or why did he have sex with Diane? Did Lorena also force him to have sex with her? Did Lorena force him to work as a procurer for the queen?
      Lorena: You said that Lorena took away Bill´s humanity thus I assume you belive that responsibility for one´s deed can taken away under certain circumstances. Last week we learnt that Lorena, a future nun, was also turned against her will and forced to attract young men who were drained and presumably raped by her maker, Istvan. Certainly this can considered as abuse and as traumatic experience. After your logic Lorena is not responsible for her deeds because her maker made her lose her humanity. Do you recognise now the little problem that results from your believes in Bill´s innocence?

      • #30 by Christine on August 1, 2010 - 6:34 pm

        ….and, what she said.

  9. #31 by Lena on August 2, 2010 - 2:48 am

    Darling, would you please let us know, when are you planning to post tonight’s episode’s analysis? Please!

    • #32 by talktrueblood on August 2, 2010 - 4:45 am

      tomorrow before 5pm. and that will never change unless something unforseen comes up…but I have a VERY GOOD theory in the works now due to that episode that will blow the analysis out the water and that might be out tonight or in the morning…

      • #33 by Lena on August 2, 2010 - 5:02 am

        Thank you! I can’t wait! You are a smarty!

      • #34 by talktrueblood on August 2, 2010 - 4:09 pm

        the theory is up but the recap will be in a few

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