Relationships: Episode 3×12 “Evil is Going On” Analysis/Recap

What exactly was the difference between Sookie and Eric in this episode? 

 

 

 

 

They both have a source of guidence, light, wisdom that they (LITERALLY) look up to  but don’t always listen to (Godric, Claudine).  Notice the striking parallel of these images that coincided with eachother in the very beginning of the show. In my opinion, this set the stage for showing the similarities and deep connection between Eric and Sookie in this episode (in order to set the stage for next season by showing Sookie’s capacity to one day love Eric back. “Forgive Him,” Godric said. This statement by Godric tied in with Sookie’s forgiveness of Eric as well. She forgave him for using her to go up against Russell and went to save him! 

The torn shirt on the shoulder shows that Sookie is torn about her feelings for Eric, but they are there...she is there.

 

 

Eric has saved Sookie’s life. She has returned the favor. Eric goes out his way for the ones he cares for, Sookie does the same. 

 

Sitting on the throne means a lot of things in relation to Sookie and Eric. This symbolizes Sookie’s growing strength and confidence in herself through Eric’s influence (she now possesses the same confidence, strength as Eric, once again they are paralleling each other; there is no true difference between them when it comes to who they really are). This symbolizes Sookie’s growing place in Eric’s life/ Eric’s heart and her influence on him(she almost rules over him as his in some ways for better or worse). Body language wise, this symbolizes Sookie’s desire to be closer to Eric by being near things that belong to Eric and literally being “enveloped” by them, like when a girlfriend wears her boyfriends sweater. It is an ownership gesture as well from the boy’s side. Therefore, this could also symbolizes Eric’s mind in that it could show that Eric feels almost like Sookie will be his eventually or subconsciously she already is, after she has saved him, they kissed, and have a full blood bond now. He feels her place is with him. 

 

 

 

 

They both enjoy revenge against their enemies, thoroughly, and can be taken by their taste for vengeance. 

 

 

 

 

Both of them felt the sting of betrayal by Bill for trusting him. 

 

 

 

 

Both of them lash out the people they care about love when they are upset. 

Therefore, the answer could be: almost NOTHING anymore! Will they find the peace in each other eventually, without the peace of  a kind of “death” that Sookie seeks in the end and Godric says we all achieve once we are dead? Can Sookie find light in Eric and vice versa without having to resort to “death” or checking out from life voluntarily in order to do so. Unfortunately, I think Sookie going to fairyland like that, so easily, represented a kind of “suicide,” similar to what Godric did to escape his reality as a vampire. Of course, Sookie did it to escape her pain and the tough reality of being the who she is while alive. 

 

Could Bill and Sookie look any more disconnected right now while Eric and Sookie look more and more connected? 

Sookie slaps Bill (again, showing the violent nature of their relationship). Bill holds onto her for dear life as she runs to Eric and her only response to him is "You don't own me." She is gaining her independence from him and running to Eric in the most literal sense.

 

 

No qualms flirting with Alcide in Bill's face!

 

Bill couldn't face his lies, couldn't be honest with Sookie...

 

...now Sookie doesn't even think Bill has the capacity to love her.

 

This is the relationship that Bill wanted to seal with marriage? In the words of Lorena, he must be “delusional!”  

Speaking of relationships… 

 

Though being honest with someone you care about can push them away now, it would be worse if they found out on their own and push that person away forever. 

 

 

 

Sometimes you just got to let people go for your own good, even if it hurts them now. 

 

No matter how good you think things are, you must look beyond the surface. 

 

It’s not always easy to fight for someone that you love and could complicate your own life. 

 

Sometimes you’ll have to resist the urge for retaliation, violent or not. 

 

 

Seeing the truth in others is also never easy and can be a burden… 

 but can also be positive. “You a witch whose a nurse whose a dude?”( you a honest vampire whose thoughts I can’t hear whose a powerful rich sheriff whose a hot guy /you a telepathic fairy that saved my life whose a waitress whose a hot woman) WELL SHIT, I GUESS I LUCKED OUT THEN, HUH? 

No doubt, “Bad Blood (3×01)” from Bill invaded Sookie’s life and left her “Beautifully Broken (3×02).” “It Hurts Me Too (3×03), and the audience and Eric too. ” (9) Crimes (3×04)” had been commited against the heroine and it brought her a lot of “Trouble (3×05),” and left her saying, “I Got a Right to Sing the Blues (3×06)!” But it wasn’t over because everything was hitting the floor/ “Hitting the Ground (3×07),” and although it left her shaken, the “Night on the Sun (3×08)” was a set back for her progression against the “Bad Blood (3×01)” because it invaded her life once again during the “Night on the Sun (3×08)” But our heroine realized that “Everything is Broken (3×09) in her life because of the “Bad Blood (3×01),” and began to think “I Smell a Rat (3×10)!” “Fresh Blood (3×11)” was provided into her life and the life of the audience after the kiss and heroics of Eric showed themselves to us and Sookie, our heroine. Sookie finally realized that “Evil is Going On (3×12)” in her life after the true “Bad Blood (3×12)” was revealed to her. What will happen next?                                          

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  1. #1 by Caroline on September 17, 2010 - 3:37 am

    ooh so glad I checked before I went to bed! I can’t say how much I LOVE your insights and am so glad I stumbled on them last week it has made my appreciation for Season 3 that much greater; and made me even more convinced of Eric’s general awesomeness and Alexander Skarsgard’s gifts as a thespian. I did not consciously pick up on the intensity of the Sookie/Eric parallel but when she was sitting on his chair/thrown I could not help but think that was the site of their first meeting as well as when he has the dream in Episode 4 which is when there could be little doubt that he had feelings for her and the nature of them as revealed in the dream. I also very much had your writings on my mind when I was watching the finale especially when Eric blows the door off (literally) and drops the MEGA nuclear bomb on Sookie about Bill being sent and even more damaging that he let her get nearly beaten to death. (eric has known this since S2 Ep 11 but the question is how -QSA?) Eric gets as close as he can to Sookie after being disinvited (and even though girlfriend is understandably in a state) she does not back away or avert her eyes. I nearly cried when he delivered his “Im sorry to see you suffer line” He is also more or less telling us (and Sookie but she is too distraught to take in the underlying meaning) that he feels for her so much that he was willing to throw any chance away to be with her (as the revealer of Bill’s nefariousness) for her to know the truth.

    Can we please spend the next 269 days going like episode by episode it is the ONLY way I am going to make it until next year!

    • #2 by talktrueblood on September 17, 2010 - 5:00 am

      Thank you so much for the compliments!
      Alexander is the second most talented actor on the show next to Denis O’Hare and is the best actor who is a main character.
      The Sookie/Eric parallel might as well have been the strongest theme in this episode (lucky us).
      I am so glad my blog helps you view the show the way you do now. The complexities can be quite intense.
      I think it’s insane that the Rattrays theory turned out to be true though I certainly believed it could have been!

      LMAO, do you mean me doing an anlysis of every episode?
      I was thinking of doing one about the comic books, which I am also now reading…
      Also, maybe some analysis of the books and what not too…
      Next blog coming up is about Bill being a sociopath and the evidence from a psychology book to back that up!

    • #3 by Freyja on September 17, 2010 - 1:24 pm

      I believe it was Sam that told Eric about Bill. Sam was there at the attack in his dog form. He must have seen Bill in the shadows waiting. When Sam met with Eric in Fangtasia, they clearly know each other some what. Sam even gives Eric his cellphone number and talks about giving Eric something in return for a favor.
      And when Eric meets Bill outside of the palace same night, BEFORE he sees the queen, he confront Bill on the attack. Bill: I was saving her life! Eric: How convenient!
      It’s possible that the queen later on maybe told Eric about the attack, probably when Eric had Hadley. It didn’t sound like she had told him anything about her interest in Sookie before that time.

      • #4 by talktrueblood on September 17, 2010 - 3:22 pm

        It’s a good theory that I would love for you to be correct about but…
        AB said on the dvd commentary that he found about through QSA…
        So that goes along with my idea that Eric found out or overheard some of it during a visit to the queen at some point during season two (prompting him to give her his blood when he had the opportunity as well to counteract Bill’s)
        and then QSA elaborated on it when she held him hostage in the season two finale. (AB had joked that Eric’s dark hair was related to holding a secret but maybe that was the truth because as soon as he was able to tell Sookie or decided to, his hair started getting blonder again).
        Therefore, that is why Eric didn’t ask any more questions except “why do you want Sookie?” because he found out everything through the queen and through Russell’s file/ Russell’s big mouth what was going on. Therefore, all he didn’t know was that she was a fairy up to that point.
        Eric couldn’t tell Sookie everything obviously at that point and he might have thought until he found out about the fairy thing, that it could have just been about her telepathy, which he himself had used. However, when he found out it was about her tasty blood and daywalking, he couldn’t let the plan go on any longer and the queen already knows he forced everything from her/Hadley and that she hadn’t exactly proven her own loyalty to Eric, so she couldn’t expect that in return.

  2. #5 by Ella on September 17, 2010 - 7:42 am

    It’s very late, but I had to read it. I loved the use of the episode titles as a recap of the season. Brilliant as always. Sookie on Eric’s chair was so great to see. I did catch that it showed her FINALLY getting stronger and thinking for herself. Great catch on the “boyfriend sweater” though. I can totally see that. I loved how Eric was so cool and collected throughout the whole episode. How he managed the situation with Russell, and he treated Sookie as an ally. He trusted that she could handle Russell by herself and do what he asked. He was so smooth when he blasted open the door, my heart caught in my throat because I thought they would leave us for a whole year thinking that Eric was buried in cement. He looked like he was just out for a stroll instead of just surviving an attack on his life. His voice was so even and calm when he was explaining about the Queen and the Ratts. It’s hard to get the right words to explain how he revealed Bill’s misdeeds. He didn’t sound like he was tattletailing, more saying like it was a fact. He also wasn’t saying it in a way that would make Sookie turn to him for comfort. I felt like he just wanted it out in the open, and yeah, he knew it would hurt her, but he also knew that she needed to heal and think things through on her own. The Viking ROCKS!

    • #6 by talktrueblood on September 17, 2010 - 2:59 pm

      🙂
      Im so glad everyone liked the “Boyfriend Sweater” comment hehe
      I think she’ll look back on this and admire Eric’s simplicity and respect.
      He could have twisted the whole situation to his advantage by going into detail about how
      Bill tryed to off him IN THE MIDDLE OF A HANDSHAKE.
      (like those that personally believed people suffer more with a lifetime in jail than through the death
      penelty).
      Eric told her more like a concerned friend than a guy that is trying to get into her pants.
      This goes back to Eric/Sookie being a lot more than about sexual attraction as well, obviously.

  3. #7 by Bobsgran on September 17, 2010 - 11:10 am

    Great again TTB. I too loved the fact that she sat on his throne. And LOVED the parallel to the boyfriend sweater. I recognize that feeling of wanting to be close to someones things. It reminded me of putting on my late husband’s robe some mornings after he passed away. There was a small bit of comfort.

    • #8 by talktrueblood on September 17, 2010 - 3:10 pm

      It was easy to think of that parallel because…
      I know exactly how that is , I kept my father’s things close to me as well for several years after he passed away.

  4. #9 by Freyja on September 17, 2010 - 1:33 pm

    Good one 🙂 Love the boyfriend sweater!
    The way Sookie sat on the throne all calm, relaxed and in control was excellent to view! Sookie and Eric are really very simular in nature as was suggested in dream 1 in season 2.
    The way she came back to being Sookie, the real Sookie was really great, but I have a theory on that!! I’m going to copy/paste it here from what I wrote on Sookieverseblog:

    Ok, there is one thing that has been bugging me since ep. 11 and even more after ep. 12. Why would Eric the clever 10000 year old vampire sheriff decide to meet his final death with Russell when Sookie is still in danger from Bill and the queen? Pam would never be able to protect Sookie and Eric knew what Bill had done and that even though he tried, Bill couldn’t keep Sophie Ann from Sookie.
    It seems out of character for Eric to do this! Bill is the one who does this, not Eric, ‘I will die for you Sookhe’ is Bills motto. Eric will do anything to live for the ones he cares about!! He is ruthless when it comes to the people he loves, he would do anything for them.

    What I think must have happened:
    After the kiss in his office, Eric is depressed and is thinking he will die, he’s not going to use Sookie in his plot. Pam slaps some sense into him fortunatly, bc Sookie will never be out of danger if Eric doesn’t use Sookie in his plan and do everything to keep living, for her safety. They cook up a plan to let Russell and Eric drink from Sookie, Eric tricks RE out in the sun and handcuffs him to himself. While in his office, he puts his blood in vials for Pam to give Sookie. Eric tied Bill up, not for the show to Russell, but to keep Bill from giving Sookie his blood one more time. Pam gives Sookie the blood from the vials. Remember the convo between Eric and Pam when he came out of his office?
    Pam: What if it doesn’t work?’ Eric: ‘oh it will work’
    Of course the blood would wear off so the plan would def work, so why question it? I think Pam was worried that Sookie wouldn’t go to rescue Eric, but he knew that his blood was stronger than Bills. Sookie woke up a totally dif person from what Bill had trained her to be. She was ruthless when it came to the people she cared about, she was confident, she felt in power, she wouldn’t let anybody own her (BookSookie talked like that but up until now TBSookie has just accepted this). Eric must have been pretty sure about Sookie saving him, he knows how she feels and with his blood overpowering Bills, well then Bill can’t manipulate Sookie to stay inside.

    I think she sensed Eric in trouble. And the reason why Sookie didn’t react so much at her house when Bill told her he had taken Eric out, is bc she sensed he was alive. S/E have always been very connected through the last 2 seasons and to add a little bloodbond would only reinforce it!
    When ever Bill has given Sookie blood, it has always been messy and sloppy. She only had a little blood on her lower lip when she woke up in Fangtasia. Like when Lala gave Calvin blood from the vial, no mess. Sookie didn’t have much blood loss but enough though for her to be rendered unconcious, so one vial would be enough. And another thing, I’ve mentioned before, there was an omnious tone sounding when Bill rubbed his blood into Sookies broken skin. I’m sure that meant something.
    And another thing! When Bill came to the hospital to give Sookie blood in ep. 7, Claudine warned her about the darkness. Then all of a sudden she was alone in darkness and fell unconcious on the ground. In Fangtasia when she had possibly Erics blood, she’s running towards a light smiling and then she wakes, but with Bill standing over her all cast in shadow. I think the light was suppose to represent Eric, as opose to Bill as the darkness.

    Maybe this is not how it went, but I think it’s very likely. Eric isn’t a romantic hero, he does what needs to be done. There is a reason why he’s been around for 1000 of years. Through out all of this season Eric has weaved a continuous plot to revenge his family, it would be OOC for him to stop plotting for the safebeing of his loved ones and give up. Eric is high handed like Sookie called him in SSN. If he needs to be high handed, then so be it, the only thing he wants is to keep Sookie alive. And to do that, Eric needs to live too.

    • #10 by Gabriela on September 17, 2010 - 3:24 pm

      it is a possibility Freya!
      But wouldn´t have Bill tell her that when she fired him from her life? It is something Bill would have done, at least just to not let Eric win. Only that if Sookie´d have agreed and that was before Bill came to “rescue” her. I must process this hehehhe

    • #11 by talktrueblood on September 17, 2010 - 3:40 pm

      I love everyone loving the Boyfriend Sweater idea!

      YAY! I would love to read your idea Freyja!

      Very nice points in the beginning…
      I WOULD love for your theory to be correct!
      Did we see Bill pulling back his wrists during the scene?
      I thought we did though that could have been just there to throw us off..
      or maybe it was supposed to be left open to interpretation!
      The part about the light makes sense though. I think it was a message by Claudine
      but why would Sookie run toward a light if it was Bill giving her blood unless
      it was really Claudine doing most of the healing or unless it was Eric’s blood as you said.

  5. #12 by Bobsgran on September 17, 2010 - 1:51 pm

    Works for me Freyja. I felt from the beginning of the plot to take out Russell that Eric had stashed some of his blood somewhere. And the fact that we did see Laffy give Calvin some V ties in with that theory. AB said in his postmortem that there is a reason for everything.

    • #13 by Freyja on September 17, 2010 - 3:24 pm

      Skarlove was just saying at sookieverseblog that she saw in slow motion when Sookie wakes up, the selfinflicted bitemarks on Bills wrist. So that theory went out the window 🙂
      But it’s ok, bc that means that Sookie went to Eric even with Bills blood and also slapped him!
      But I still think that Eric might have hoped for a possible rescue from Sookie. She was in major danger from the queen and Bill would never be able to save her.
      Or maybe Eric had some instruction for Pam regarding Sookies safety. Possibly from the werepack through Alcide.

      • #14 by Gabriela on September 17, 2010 - 3:34 pm

        I didn´t read this 🙂
        But it´s better this way! that Sookie´s feeling are true and not only for the blood…
        I was astonished that she slapped him, it felt too good, it was for all he has done before because in this case, just for once he did something good for her that was, simulate in front of Russell, anyway, HE DESERVED IT

      • #15 by talktrueblood on September 17, 2010 - 4:14 pm

        Even loads Bill’s blood (gallons and gallons…liters and liters) can’t overpower her feelings for the viking!

        At the very least it also shows that Bill never had to make the blood exchanges messy or anything or give her so much to heal her, even though he was younger! Bill gives her such a small amount it barely touches her lips and somehow heals quickly enough to jump up and save Eric! lol

      • #16 by talktrueblood on September 17, 2010 - 4:16 pm

        I don’t know. I wonder what Eric’s plans herself but of course they don’t tell us everything so we can speculate..
        I am half happy about that and half grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! haha

      • #17 by Bobsgran on September 17, 2010 - 6:59 pm

        I was just coming by to say that our wish may be dashed.

      • #18 by talktrueblood on September 17, 2010 - 7:10 pm

        what, the thing about it being Bill that gave her the blood? Yeah, Skarlove ruined that hope haha

    • #19 by talktrueblood on September 17, 2010 - 3:52 pm

      Omg, now that might give Freyja’s theory even more credibility…
      the Laffy/Calvin parallel!
      But…of course it was probably Bill.

      • #20 by Chris on September 17, 2010 - 5:20 pm

        What was Eric doing in Fangtasia’s office (episode 11) before he and Russell drank Sookie’s blood? He didn’t call Alcide because he did that the in episode 12.
        Did the light heal Sookie? Why is she making all those facial expressions as she looks at the light? Was that to show she was starting to awaken? Did Bill really get her to drink his blood again or was he only starting to feed her when she jumped up at him saying her name? Maybe that’s why she only had a drop of blood on her lip. And finally does anyone know how Bill managed to free himself from his restraints? Pam appears to be in the same spot (lost in her grief) as she watches the monitor. I’d love to hear some theories because I’ve watched these scenes several times and haven’t a clue.

      • #21 by talktrueblood on September 17, 2010 - 7:03 pm

        I am thinking the fairies helped heal her and Bill was only beginning to start giving her blood as well.
        GREAT question about Bill’s restraints…need to think about that but I guess Pam could have untied him or Bill is a master that untied himself…wtf was that about?

      • #22 by Hime on September 18, 2010 - 3:04 pm

        I don’t think the light healed Sookie. Rewatching Sookie’s vision of Claudine in 3×07, it seems that the fae light pushes Sookie towards her fairy essence and simultaneosly pulls her further and further from her human life. IOW, the “light” is pulling her out of the human world and setting a metamorphosis into a full fairy, which could involve “death”. Bill’s blood stopped this trasformation through death once again, like it did in the hospital. Claudine in the first vision said (paraphrasing)”the darkness is coming” when Bill started giving Sookie his blood and then “don’t go back there, stay with us” as if Sookie shouldn’t return in the human world.
        I doubt fairies are so-good creatures.

        About Bill feeding Sookie at the beginning of the ep., I think they made it pretty clear. And it speakes volumes that, even with the umpteenth Bill blood infusion, Sookie’s first thought is “Where is Eric?” . It wouldn’t have been so meaningful if Sookie’s desire to save Eric would have been provoked by Eric’s blood in her system.

      • #23 by talktrueblood on September 19, 2010 - 12:47 am

        very valid points…
        Like I said, I saw Sookie going to fairyland as a metephorical suicide….a suicide over Bill and her rough life in some ways…how sad.
        I agree that fairies will not be exactly what they seem although Claudine will possibly remain the light throughout it all.

        i agree about the where is eric after bill’s blood. that was absolutely wonderfuL!

  6. #24 by Gabriela on September 17, 2010 - 2:04 pm

    just great! as always are your analysis
    About the love triangle, I really shouted and clap when Sookie fired and flied Bill (literally) from her life, I liked Anna Paquin there, I could feel her distress and I really pitied her whe she was shouting Bill about “his love”. This break up will improve the show so much, not only because most of us wanted her with Eric, but because Sookie without Bill is so much stronger and interesting, and Eric also help improve that ( as you said that Eric take her as an ally and a self-own woman, while Bill is always overprotecting and treating her as stupid, the finer example: Eric “don´t stake him! and Bill: “I won´t leave you alone” – stop with that Bill, EWWW) While Bill takes out her worst side, Eric takes out her best or at least her strongest.
    But Bill is a far interesting character without her, dark, ambiguous. I prefer him that way. So if Sookie ever comes back with Bill, I will never forgive that, it will be like an insult…
    Sookie´s evil laugh while flushing Talbot again (poor Talbot and almost pity Russell) it was soooo understandable, she was bit, beaten, kidnapped, and now she is told that she will be used to bring back Talbot..well, that is too much for anybody!
    I liked, loved Eric. His inner battle represented by Godric, his face when he said “now it comes I´m an assasin” to Pam, and his sweet revenge. here we can see how he grew, he could have ripped Bill into threads but he had “the cold blood” to make it different and win in the process…so smart! Love you Eric 🙂

    Excelent, all the scenes with Hoyt, Maxine and Summer, so grotesque…I like that storyline
    Don´t like Sam right now and Jason storyline (but I think they are two of the best characters, I used to think Sam was the best second option for Sookie, but not now)
    And keep expecting about Lafayette and Sookie´s “travel”
    …it will be a looooong wait 🙂

    About the site in Spanish, well if you want, I could help you with that, I don´t know if you have many Spanish readers to make it worth, but if you want, just tell me

    Regards!

    • #25 by Freyja on September 17, 2010 - 3:31 pm

      Eric actually said: ‘Great, now I’m out of an assassin’ When Pam said she killed Reuben.
      Many will of course speculate if Eric wanted to kill Bill when he sent Reuben after him in ep. 1, but he actually said to Reuben in the telephone: ‘I said bring him to me. You said done’

      And you are so right about Eric trusting Sookie with RE alone and only told her not to stake him. While Bill can’t leave poor little defenseless Sookie alone with that monster! Well guess what Billy, she’s not defenseless, she’s a grown ass woman!!

      • #26 by Gabriela on September 17, 2010 - 3:40 pm

        hahah thanks Freya! I understoon somthing else about what Eric said, and that was even more funny 😀

      • #27 by talktrueblood on September 17, 2010 - 4:11 pm

        I did not understand what he said either! LMAO

      • #28 by theagnosticswife on September 17, 2010 - 4:37 pm

        Oh ha !I thought he said something like “now I’m housing and assassin” to Pam to which she said something to the effect of and I’m paraphrasing because I don’t remember exactly, “I don’t stand for that shit” about killing Ruben.

    • #29 by talktrueblood on September 17, 2010 - 4:24 pm

      I agree, Sookie is so much stronger without Bill (Personality and character wise).
      Eric was right when he said he only cares about himself, not protecting her…
      that ties back in with Russell’s comments to Bill about his desires over-powering the
      welfare of the human that he supposedly loves (I think Eric would turn her to protect her if she allowed it).
      It is so true he tried to kill Eric so that Sookie would never get the truth from Eric.
      How much more self-involved could one be, especially since Eric is so valuable when it comes to
      helping protect Sookie??? I wouldn’t be surprised if he even tried to off Alcide too at some point.

      I actually enjoy watching dark Bill as a villian like I enjoy watching Russell as a villian!

      I love Sam and I was sad to see how far they are taking the dark side of his character!

      Well, I am still thinking about it. I am not sure either but maybe I could get more readers with a
      spanish site, I don’t know.

  7. #30 by lizzy on September 17, 2010 - 4:25 pm

    Waiting for this all week,excellent,thank you so much.

    • #31 by talktrueblood on September 17, 2010 - 4:27 pm

      Thank you Lizzy! I hope to have something else about Bill up within another week!

  8. #32 by Gabriela on September 17, 2010 - 5:47 pm

    Some thing I noticed, but maybe it´s just my perception in E/S/B relationship, is that when Bill bites Sookie is always kind of disgusting (for me), too bloody and greedy, and also when he gave her blood, I feel like a rejection (specially when he heals her with his finger) and that reflects, I think, what you say about a violent relationship. But untill now, both times when Eric drank Sookie´s blood, we never saw the bites or her wounds. Even when she sucked the bullets in S2 it was not disgusting at all (for her maybe yes, or maybe I ´m not objective anymore ahhahaha)
    Hmmm, let´s see what happen next season…

    • #33 by talktrueblood on September 17, 2010 - 7:08 pm

      I have felt that way as well but also think I am not very objective.

      Also, some people like rough sex/ roughness with their sexuality and are oddly turned on by how Bill does things…
      hmmmmmmm

  9. #34 by anna on September 17, 2010 - 7:29 pm

    Thank you for the wonderful recap & analysis.

  10. #36 by Caroline on September 18, 2010 - 2:23 am

    Are people generally under the assumption that Eric’s original plan to off RE did not involve him drinking Sookie’s blood? On the one hand I can see this but on the other hand I am thinking there was no way around it and I do think it is interesting because when he has the exchange with Pam where she says “don’t do it what if it doesn’t work” my thought was where is he coming from was he in the bathroom before? totally loving all these comments/insights from everyone! TTB any thoughts on all the AB sookie+Bill are soulmates stuff i mean was that just subterfuge because I just don’t see how from all the evidence here that things are not heading somewhere else. oh so long until june drat drat drat.

    • #37 by talktrueblood on September 18, 2010 - 2:17 pm

      I think it was Eric’s original plan to drink from Sookie!
      I guess some people think that he was just going to tell Russell about this and hope Russelll would just drink a little and then go out in the sun and they’d lock him out or something…but that doesn’t make sense…so I think it was Eric’s original plan.
      I have no idea where he was than possibly getting “things in order”…whatever that might have been…maybe he was gettting the handcuffs…

      I think AB’s world and in my personal view…soulmates are people that grow and learn from eachother…which I think Bill and Sookie certainly would…haha
      That definitely doesn’t mean that they will have a positive experience with eachother while doing that or end up together in the end or that they were even
      right for eachother in the first place as mates.

      I think AB was either talking from that perspective or from the perspective of Sookie at that point in time, as to not give anything away.

  11. #38 by sarah on September 18, 2010 - 11:16 am

    Talktrueblood, concerning the rough sex: I don´t think that Bill represents this because this kind of sex is not about real violence or hate between the partners, it is simply an idea, a fantasy some people have. Bill however has real issues with woman, control and violence. The nasty sex with Lorena was by no means comparable with BDSM. He wanted to violate Lorena and her consent was not wished by him. I know people who enjoy rough sex but they were disgusted by all the Bill sex scenes whereas they really enjoyed Eric and Yvetta´s consensual little bondage sessions in the dungeon. I am still tempted to write a longer post about sex/consens issues in TB because there are several highly interesting scenes (Dawn/Jason, Bill/Sookie, Bill/Lorena, Eric/Yvetta). Unfortunately I have not an own site and furthermore would not have the time to maintain one.
    I immensly enjoyed your post and the parallels you drawed between Eric and Sookie. “Boyfriend´s sweater”, this is awesome! I think that Eric and Sookie have the same inner core. Eric might be more brave, self-reliant and smart than Sookie at the moment but Sookie already has all this traits only hidden through her upbringing and Bill´s bad blood.
    I actually loved Godric very much in S2 but I am not sure I can support his recent ideas. Don´t get me wrong I also believe that forgiveness is good for you and for you enemy. Hate in contrast will corrupt you. But I always saw forgiveness as process where certain elements (the wrongdoer´s remorse, a condemnation of the deed by society) are very helpful. However RE is a culprit who is still more than ready to mock Eric´s slaughtered family. Seeing a murderer jocking about the death of your newborn sister is not exactly helpful to find inner peace.
    This episode contained outstanding performances by several actors. I know a lot of people disliked the whole Tara storyline but the scissor scene was one of the most intense things I ever saw on TV.
    DOH managed to turn even the burned RE in a treating and not ridiculous creature. The mini-scene where we saw a silently grieving and crying Pam (what a contrast to Bill´s theatralic outbursts!) was heart-breaking which also applies to Ellis´portrayal of Lafayette who more and more fears to lose his emotional and mental balance. Skarsgard was outstanding and even Paquin did not go under in her scenes with all these gifted actors.
    I always liked Sunny´s theory concerning the Rats but honestly I though that AB would not have the courage to go there. Hinting it at, surely but not showing it. Of course, every attentive viewer could have told that Bill is an abusive and frightening vampire to me but confirming it was neccesary for the causal viewers.

    • #39 by talktrueblood on September 18, 2010 - 2:28 pm

      I don’t think Bill represents that either but some people think he does!
      Some people get that as a wrong perception…

      Maybe I should do a sex on true blood post.
      Write as long as you want! : )
      You could submit an outline for something you want to say and I could feature it on my website as your
      article and add the photos and edit it and what not.
      my email is scribe530@yahoo.com

      I feel exactly the same way about Godric’s views.

      I agree that the performances were outstanding, even more so than usual in some instances.

      Sunny’s theory made sense to me but the only reason I thought it might not happen is because CH
      said it wasn’t her intention to imply that in the books. I am so glad AB went there. That is so
      much worse than orders from a queen. I mean Eric had to sell V through lafayette because of
      orders from a queen though he did lavish Laffy with money and gifts for it.

      • #40 by sarah on September 20, 2010 - 5:12 pm

        I feel honoured by your idea and I´d love to do a post. Unfortunately I have to write some university papers plus I need to rewatch fitting S1/S2 episodes thus I will maybe need some weeks for this post.

      • #41 by talktrueblood on September 20, 2010 - 9:49 pm

        No rush Sarah. I am going to have a new post out by thursday hopefully that someone requested.

      • #42 by talktrueblood on September 21, 2010 - 2:48 pm

        I have been doing university papers myself…
        : /

  12. #43 by anna on September 18, 2010 - 4:07 pm

    Sarah, there was so much hatred and anger about during the season it seems like some compassion and loving kindness wouldn’t go amiss.
    I agree that forgiveness and redemption is a process that includes admiting culpability, but what do you do with someone like RE?

    • #44 by talktrueblood on September 19, 2010 - 12:50 am

      I don’t know. I am asking myself the same question.
      My main dislike was Godric demanding Eric’s forgiveness despite everything…hmmmm.

      anyway, I guess it was supposed to make yet another point about christian hypocrisy.
      a 1000 yr old viking and a vampire around before Jesus are better able to forgive than most christians who
      spout the same rhetoric. I am not speaking from my persepctive necessarily, but I am coming from AB’s perspective and
      the Christian hypocrisy theme he has spread since the beginning of True Blood.

  13. #45 by anna on September 19, 2010 - 7:19 pm

    Not sure that Godric was being Christian, wouldn’t he have said “God is love”.
    I think that part of what he was saying was if you carry out an action with hatred then that hatred has a bad effect on you.
    If Eric had imprisoned or even killed RE without hatred or wanting revenge then any bad consequences might have been less as another way of looking at forgiveness is letting go of the negative emotions that cause you suffering.

    • #46 by talktrueblood on September 19, 2010 - 7:57 pm

      Ummm. I was just trying to connect with AB’s other themes…whether I necessarily agree with them or not.

      That is true! Very valid points all around.

  14. #47 by anna on September 19, 2010 - 8:23 pm

    Because people didn’t like Godric this episode I’ve trying to work out what AB had him say, and no I’m not obsessed (much).
    I agree with you about the Christian hypocrisy theme that runs through TB with the FotS & Hoyt’s mother etc.
    This episode AB made the characters mention heaven, hell and redemption.
    RE says oh dear at the mention of Heaven, Sookie tells Eric to go back to Hell and Eric couldn’t bear the thought of RE finding any kind of peace or redemption.
    RE likens Sookie’s blood to paradise, arcadia and nirvana and there’s probably more!

    • #48 by talktrueblood on September 19, 2010 - 9:24 pm

      NO, DO NOT APOLOGIZE. I have been trying to think about it myself. I would love to discuss it as I write my next post.

      I am wondering if AB is pushing buddhist themes through Godric.

      • #49 by anna on September 20, 2010 - 8:34 pm

        You can always email me.

  15. #50 by anna on September 20, 2010 - 7:59 am

    I have no idea, or at least I have several.
    Just because I can read it that way doesn’t mean that it’s what AB is “pushing”.
    Forgiveness doesn’t sit easily in an “eye for an eye” society.
    Some people seem uncomfortable with what Godric has to say, why exactly and what would they have been happy with.
    There are references to almost everything else so why not.
    AB said a few years ago that he was a casual Buddhist.
    I don’t think that what Godric says is consistent unless it’s read on another level and that would be my interpretation not necessarily AB’s.

    • #51 by talktrueblood on September 21, 2010 - 2:52 pm

      That is true that it isn’t necessarily exactly what AB is “pushing,” I think a lot of open to interp. too.
      I agree with what you said about Godric and people not being happy about that.
      I don’t know what I would say or would want have said personally.

  16. #52 by Sarah on September 20, 2010 - 3:19 pm

    Talktrueblood
    something is really wrong with your site.when i open it the whole text is hidden under your trueblood poster background. am i the only one having this problem?

  17. #53 by anna on September 20, 2010 - 3:31 pm

    The site is OK with Firefox.

    • #54 by sarah on September 20, 2010 - 5:07 pm

      firefix refuses to open it right while internet explorer manages to open it “normally”. maybe it is due to my computer?

      • #55 by anna on September 20, 2010 - 5:21 pm

        Might be, have you run a virus check recently or updated firefox?

      • #56 by Sarah on September 20, 2010 - 8:12 pm

        I updated firefox…this might be the reason of all evil:-)

  18. #57 by anette on September 20, 2010 - 7:05 pm

    I like your “boyfriend sweater” metaphor, I think it’s really good point. I think also, that Sookie must trust and feel really close to Eric if she sit at his chair – and felt so comfortable doing this. It wasn’t just a chair, it was his throne, almost symbol of what he was, who he was. She was there like his “day-light version” 😉 At night he posses this throne, during day – she feels she could sit there, as his … almost queen?

    and Freja, you have right, I was wondering for so long, why Sam didn’t say nothing, he was there as a dog… but… wait a second, maybe it wasn’t Sam, but real dog, who, as we know, live just near Merlott’s?
    But Eric was so sure… so what? Queen told him? Or maybe he made his own investigation? I don’t care, good to know that he knew and told Sookie.

    I think Sookie and Eric has one thing to in common, they both are very truthful, they said what they have on their mind, they are uncompromising about people they love and about being honest to them selves. It is really great value for me. But it often make life much more complicated 😉

    I believe, that Eric really didn’t want to use Sookie before Pam explained him, that it is necessary for all of them to finish this crazy situation as a alive vampire 😉

    And I don’t think Bill or Eric had to give her blood, She wasn’t drain, she just collapsed, was in shock, fainted. Remember – they drink a little, Bill during sex drunk more cause he is a greedy pig.
    When she opened her eyes, her first impression was that Eric is in danger, so she asked about him, and said this great phrase: u don’t won me (my god, sweet lord, it could be great ring tone for my cell 😉 but rather choose Eric’s: it’s the beginning, ). Love when she jump and run to help her Viking. If their blood bond is still strong (and from the books we know, that their have extremely strong bb, even after a little dose of blood – I think that their feelings for each other made it so strong) she had to feel so much pain when he was burning outside. And Russell used their strong feelings to each other: he threat that he would find a way to kill her precious Viking – not her dear Bill fucking Compton, but precious Eric. Love it! Russell knew more we thought – he just found them in love – both! At the beginning he make funny from Eric’s farewell with Sookie, when he touched her face and was looking so “heartbroken”, and then – outside – his suggestion that he know, that she love Eric was so clear for me.

    • #58 by talktrueblood on September 21, 2010 - 2:37 pm

      I am so glad everyone liked the boyfriend sweater metaphor.
      I liked the point being his queen…which is why I pulled out the point about being in his life not/influencing him.

      Yes, it might have been the real dog…we don’t know!

      I think it was a combination of the queen and his own investigation because of his growing feelings/curiosity about Sookie.
      Yes, I think Eric did what he did not only for Sookie but for Pam as well because I don’t think he knew for sure he would get out alive.

      I agree Sookie fainting is a possibility. She not only rescued him, she gave him blood after what just happened!

      The precious viking line was just about my favorite line in season 3 that did not come directly from Eric.
      Russell is 3000 yrs old so I find his observations the most telling about of anyone! I also don’t think he would have said that before Bill if he didn’t think her feelings for Eric were
      starting to become stronger than her feelings for Bill.
      “precious viking” line is going to stay close to me in off season!

      • #59 by anette on September 21, 2010 - 6:47 pm

        most important thing about “precious viking” line is that Russell want to say something to make her angr enough to stop controling her inner strenght and power (“flash-light hands”), so as an intelligent and really old one he had to choose what she care most, what will make her angry, what affraid her enough to cross the boundries. And yes: he treath that he will find a way to harm Eric 😉
        Love Russell’s intuition 😉
        Love her reaction, cause it proof that R. was right about them.
        Sookie was so brave, and love her determination to save Eric, including giving him her own blood. And hope she noticed, that even 1000 year old vampire, so weak he could die and canot use his fangs, near the truth death could just resist of jump at her and drain her totally, leaving her close to death… such a difference of Bill…

      • #60 by talktrueblood on September 21, 2010 - 9:52 pm

        Bill was secondary to Russell…lol 😉

        EXACTLY!

  19. #61 by anette on September 24, 2010 - 10:44 pm

    Well, I just watched 1-3 seasons all again, and I must say, there is a lot of things I haven’t notice after 1 view. So maybe some more speculation about season 4?
    Witches, now I’m sure that the person who will brings witches to BT is Laffayete, not by purpose, but, just like Tara brings Maryanne by creating some big magical energy, I think Laffy bring witches because of his V trips. I think something is odd with this family, something more than human they are. Tara bring Maryanne by her energy, I’m sure that Miss Janet had many other clients to exorcisms, but only Tara’s were so intensive to get noticed by some other magical creatures. When I listened what Ruby Jane said to Jesus about Laffy I felt that it wasn’t crazy woman talk, but it is some kind prophesy for next season: they will come for him, witches, they will hound him down and try to take his energy, his own light, he need to be protected from vampires witches, dog and cats, couse they know (!)
    Jesus, maybe by accident, but I’m not sure of that, release with Laffy a lot of magical energy.
    Maybe their energy, their “auras” were connected during v-trip, so it was bigger and stronger than anything else.
    There is a Holly, viccan but using blood in her rituals, it’s odd, I know a lot about rituals for Great Mother , non of it is connected with blood (I’m some kind of good witch by myself so I know, that blood is a sacrifice to violent for good rituals, it’s a bad energy, darkness), blood is using in black magic… maybe “magical abortion” is rather black than white magic? But I thought that it can be something different. What if Holly isn’t Mather Theresa rape-survival viccan, but true witch, who just looking for an opportunities? What if she found Arlene child as a perfect for witchcraft? Son or a daughter of a sociopath and murderer, true evil child, so she make an ritual to sacrifice this child to her goddess, and those herbs… well I recon it was something like in Rosemary Child, something to bring an evil child stronger…
    If Bill is connected with witches (I wouldn’t be surprise at all, I still wonder from what he gets his arrogance and sureness that he could be dangerous for 1000 or 3000 years old Vampire, and he worked to QSA, and as we know – she was interesting in some magic knowledge – both Bill and Eric came to her to ask about menad) he could be responsible for Eric’s amnesia, because of jealousy Bill could sent an amnesia (by himself or by his friendly witches) to make sure Eric didn’t know nothing about Sookie being a fairy, and maybe even Sookie being his saver. But forget about things is something what is happening in head, not in heart, that’s why Eric could go to Sookie, after loosing his head, all he have is his heart, heart who belongs to Sookie 😉

  20. #62 by Renée on October 3, 2010 - 6:48 pm

    Very insightful post! I love especially love the similarities you have highlighted between Eric and Sookie. There’s another set of images that really stuck me. In 3.11 and 3.12 we see both Sookie and Eric reaching out their right hands to touch the light.

    • #63 by Renée on October 3, 2010 - 6:53 pm

      Actually that should be I especially love the visual parallels during the finale between Eric and Sookie.

    • #64 by talktrueblood on October 3, 2010 - 8:34 pm

      Thank you Renee!
      Oh yes, that parallel is definitely too strong to be ignored and it has to have an overall meaning (point to a connection between them) or both of course.

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