Bad Boys: Bill vs. Eric

First of all, this blog is dedicated to ENA, my reader who requested it.

Let us tally up and compare the evil/bad deeds done by both Bill and Eric (that we as an audience know for sure about now) as well as their lies and then let us compare the numbers, shall we? I’ll attempt to be objective as possible as I analyze this:

Season One Tally:

Bill:

As the audience later finds out in Season Three, the whole reason Bill came back to Bon Temps in the first place was to seduce Sookie so that he could earn her trust enough (since she couldn’t be glamoured and had friends/family that would look for her) in order to lure her to the queen. We also find out in Season Three that Bill was keeping a file on Sookie. This is almost worthy of two x’s but I wont do that:

Bill stood by and watched while Sookie was being almost beaten to death OR hired the Rattrays to beat her up so that he could give her his blood as soon as possible (before they even really knew eachother):

Although they were not good people, Bill killed the Rattrays either to cover up his plot with them or simply in order to feed on them and look good in front of Sookie in his mind and/or as part of his mission to “protect her”:

Although it was a pedophile, Bill killed an elderly and defenseless Uncle Bartlett after feeding on him as a result of Sookie confiding in Bill that he had molested her as a  child (Sookie does not seem happy with this “protective” move later on):

Bill did not tell Sookie/ tried to hide the fact that he turned Jessica (effectively lying) by attempting to pawn his new child off on Eric:

Eric:

Although he did not know Sookie well at the time, he did not rush to her aid when Longshadow attacked her when she was on buisness for him at his establishment. (I am including this to be fair despite the fact that he probably knew Bill would attack or maybe he had a better plan in mind before Bill killed Longshadow, however, as an audience we only see Eric not reacting before Bill attacks):

Season One Tally: Bill: 5 ; Eric: 1

Season Two:

Eric:

Although, it was his duty as sheriff, Eric imprisoned Lafayette and killed Royce (though Royce could almost be called self-defense although we know Royce was no match for Eric:

Although Eric had just saved her life, he convinced Sookie he needed her to suck the bullets out so the he could heal and did not tell her otherwise, effectively lying about that and taking the opportunity for her to take some of his blood:

Bill:

After Sookie confronted Bill with some of his lies/cover ups  (including Uncle Barlett’s murder), she asked Bill if there was anything else he needed to tell her. He said “No,” effectively lying about a lot of things ( the queen sending him to Bon Temps for her, being a procurer for the queen, giving her his blood on purpose, his past with Lorena, etc.):

Although Bill was understandably mad at Sookie for bringing Jessica to see her parents, he got a little physically violent with Sookie during his anger with her:

Season One and Two Tally: Bill 7; Eric 3

Season Three:

Bill:

Although Bill was starving and desperate, he fed off of a sick and elderly woman against her will (by glamouring her) and although it is very possible she survived, it is also possible she did not. Because of his extreme circumstances, I will give him a half of a X:

Bill needlessly lashed out at Lorena by attempting to burn her to death/ burning her (despite the past, Lorena was no immediate threat to Sookie or anyone and therefore this was vengeance similar to Eric staking Talbot later on):

Bill cheated on Sookie with Lorena (he had sex with her before he broke up with Sookie over the phone). Bill had no reason to have sex with Lorena other than his own self fufillment, so it was cheating was no justifiable reason. The abuse part of the sex was ambiguous because Lorena never said no while he was abusing her during the sex. However, the fact remains that he cheated on Sookie:

Although it was under Russell’s orders, Bill procured a stripper under false pretenses (partially by glamouring her) that they needlessly killed and he participated in/ seemed to enjoy:

Bill ignored Tara when she asked for help (but because he was stuck in the situation he was in front of Russell, Lorena and Franklin, I will once again be generous and only give Bill a half of a X because it wasn’t a direct action, it was no action that could have had consequences):

Although weak from being fed on by V addict, Bill almost killed Sookie during a moment of blood lust and had nothing to say except “Damn,” when he was kicked out of the truck by Tara:

Bill attempts to abandon Jessica after a month and leaves her to fend for herself in favor of having sex with Sookie. (you could make the argument that Bill knew Jessica was ok but are the same ties/ is the same awareness there after the child is released? Afterall, a maker is no longer ablet to command the child):

Bill lied yet again when he told Sookie he was keeping a file on her because of Eric and then Bill witheld the truth when asked about what the truth was by Sookie later on (as Eric brought it up). In fact, he reveals nothing till Eric makes him later on.:

Bill tries to kill Eric and Pam (get rid of their undead lives) out of jealousy of Sookie’s growing feelings for Eric as well as out of a desire to cover up the secrets Eric knew about him so that Sookie would never find out:

Eric:

Although Russell did kill Eric’s family, Eric staked Talbot (russell’s child/boyfriend)  to get back at Russell (even though he incidently helped save Sookie and Bill from Russell):

Eric put up a front for Russell, bit Hadley,  imprisoned Sookie against her will and bit her against her will  but because it was in order to save her life and find out the reasons that the queen and bill were after Sookie, Eric gets a half a X:

Eric Seasons One, Two, Three Tally: 4.5 Xs.

Bill Seasons One, Two, Three Tally: 15 Xs.

BILL GOT THREE TIMES AS MANY Xs AS ERIC WHILE I WAS BEING OBJECTIVE AS POSSIBLE!

I won’t go into detail about the motivations behind this actions, though I think it is CLEAR and easy to distinguish which actions made more sense than others, which actions were more necessary than others, and which actions were harder to avoid than others…BUT…

Both Bill and Eric do questionable things…

But I think it is more than clear after this analysis who the true villian of True Blood is and I doubt it will change!

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  1. #1 by Feather on September 21, 2010 - 5:39 am

    do you think Eric deserves a point for calling in Lorena in season 2?

    and man, poor Sookie’s horrified face when Russell and Eric are feeding on her…it makes me sad every time i see that picture!

    • #2 by talktrueblood on September 21, 2010 - 2:25 pm

      Yeah, maybe I can do an update and add that…but the reason I don’t think that

      Also, I didn’t add Eric giving Lafayette his blood because Eric could have turned him and made the connection far worse…which he did not do and Lafayette may have died because
      he did not seek medical care.

      And yes, it was bad…which is why I have to include that…

  2. #3 by Michelle on September 21, 2010 - 5:56 am

    Good job talktrueblood:)

    Tally clearly shows the negative side to both vamps and I congratulate you on your merits for providing these facts/phases that have occurred throughout the seasons.

    • #4 by talktrueblood on September 21, 2010 - 2:38 pm

      thank you Michelle.
      I am so glad you enjoyed it and saw it’s value…as far as things I did not include or grouped together…I had good reasons I believe which went along
      with my side note at the end.

  3. #5 by anette on September 21, 2010 - 11:29 am

    great job, just like I was thinking, Bill is a piece of shit, he is a liar, cheater, “covering his ass”, murderer, aggressive and violent son of a bitch (Lorena 😉 )
    Eric is warrior, he is aggressive when circumstances are big: when Royce attacked him, when he has big issues with Russell.
    I was sorry for Talbot, really, even if I understand, that Eric killed him in the best moment to save Sookie, by taking Russell focus of her, but still – poor Talbot.
    But (now I put all good sides of Eric, all those things I think speak for his advantage):
    – he never lies to Sookie,
    – he never used her just because he can – feeding on her with Russell was truly unpleasant, but – he tried to comfort her and it was a part of plan to killed her biggest enemy in that moment (oh, maybe except Bill).
    – He never killed person just because he could: like Bill killed uncle Barlett.
    – He never tried to look better in her eyes
    – He never justify his action by pulling a blame on her (like Bill did: “I did it because I want to protect you”, “I turned Jessica because I killed Long Shadow for you”, “I had files on you to protect you against Eric”, “I killed Eric because he knew about who you are and he drank your blood”)
    – He never pretended someone who he isn’t just to be “whiter that a sheet” (like Bill does: other vampires are not like me, they just can’t love, and be so great at pulling their own desire to drunk your blood, I love you)
    – he in many occasion help Sookie: even when she was trying to save Bill, what was surely not so good idea for Eric; for example: Alcide: it was Eric, who make sure, that Sookie will have protector and friend in Jackson;
    – he never failed her progeny Pam and his maker Godric, he is loyal for people he love and care (not like Bill to Jessica and to Lorena in fact)
    – he was truthful even when he could lost Sookie’s friendship or love: he just say truth about Bill risking that as a messenger he will be not welcome or “get a first bullet” of her anger
    – in moment he think his own true death was just on a corner, he just want to kiss her not to” fuck her, drink her blood, use her…
    It makes at least 11 + to Eric against Bill 11 – to Bill.
    Because I think it not only our bad behave make us a villain, but also lack of our good behave.
    So: Bill has a lot of bad X, like you shown, but also lot of – as a sign of what he didn’t done as he should if he was a good person.
    And Eric has a few X, but also have a lot of +, as a reword for his honesty, loyality, love, and his uncompromising good personality.
    It’s funny, I’m watching now all episodes from the beginning, from season 1, but this time my hubby is watching it with me, and it’s first time for him. And from the 1 season he just feel that Bill is a laying bitch 😉 He has got a nice intuition as for guy 😉

    • #6 by talktrueblood on September 21, 2010 - 2:47 pm

      hahahah Anette!

      The ironic thing is something good came out of the bad he did to Talbot/Russell.

      Eric did cover up the fact that she didn’t have to suck the bullets out but that was his one and only true “lie,” if you see it as one.
      lol at the Bill enemy comment!
      That is what I love about Eric. He is not humble on the surface but he truly is humble because he never boasts about the good he does or tries to take credit for everything.
      Bill isn’t loyal to anyone except Sookie because he addicted to her.
      I agree that Eric risked their friendship/love by telling Sookie.
      Well he said “atleast kiss her.” but I totally agree. He was prepared to die happy from a kiss.
      LMAO @ your hubby. I think you have a good man then! : )
      I was going to do a good guys post! to show against this one!

      • #7 by anette on September 21, 2010 - 7:47 pm

        yes, he lies abut sucking bullett, or let her belive it was neccessary, but why?
        If he already belived Bill is a liar, he could knew when she was in danger… she even agreed, that was good for her, when she asked him, just before her trip to Jackson if he will feel when she would be in danger, and how fast he could go for rescue of her.
        Remember? He said that he would apear in Jackson to late, so better for both of them would be if she will be carreful. 😉
        So, even if she was angry at him at the beggining, she liked her dreams for sure (oh my, who wouldn’t?) and foud it usefull when she was affraid of herself safety.

      • #8 by talktrueblood on September 22, 2010 - 12:15 am

        I think Eric had a good reason for giving her blood (to counteract bill and provide her his own protection) but he did lie in order to do it.
        Nevertheless, Sookie seems to enjoy it 😉 and take full advantage of it lol

      • #9 by shecantbehave on September 27, 2010 - 12:24 pm

        did any of you stop to wonder if eric felt sookies fear (trough the little blood they has shared) when eric killed talbot?

      • #10 by talktrueblood on September 27, 2010 - 11:43 pm

        I think so and he knew that Russell was going after her before he left too.

  4. #11 by lizzy on September 21, 2010 - 6:22 pm

    Another good job,thank you.

  5. #12 by anette on September 21, 2010 - 7:36 pm

    one more thing:
    what we know about Bill past? What Bill was doing last 150 years?
    After few decades with Lorena, when he for sure lived life full of violence, crime and people abusing, he spend many years with those 3 psychotic vamps from 1 season, and as we know: Diane said they have so much fun – we saw what a kind of fun Diane prefers.
    then he worked to QSA as a procurer (?) so I can imagine, that his job was to glamour people who he choose as a snack for her or her guests. That is all we know about him.
    And i wonder, what a fuck he mean, when he was all about his humanity – so much different than in case of other vampires?
    As we know until great revelation he was a criminal and abuser. Why suddenly he want to mainstreaming? Oh, remember – QSA send him to BT to “procure” Sookie, legendary telepath, cousin of her precious Hadley… so it was not his great will to change his bad ass attitude, but order of his Quenn… so when exactly he became the good one? I can’t see that!
    And after moving to Bon T. did he really changed his behave? I don’t see that at all.
    As a mainstreaming vampire he is so honest as Nan Flannagan – openly – only true blood, but behind a curtain, he prefers to drunk Sookies blood. Openly – humanity oh my dear humanity – but when light is off, he killed more people than Eric and Pam together! Openly – I love you Sookie, but in a drawer he have files on her. And suprising well he rebound his officially lost life track, when he was at Russell house: he was violent and abusing, not only Lorena, but also this poor strip girl, and he just forget about his valid humanity at all in case of Tara. I see here many X on Bill, and also many -.
    lets faced my dear, Bill is a criminal. He was a bad guy and nothing changed about this. Even as a soldier he was unnoble, he want to kill a teenage boy just because he dont like his screams, he was a southern man with a southern mentality – slaves and patriarchy.
    And Eric was a warrior as good, that his poeople wouldn’t leave him without honorable funeral even if it was risking their own safety, as good that Godric finf him worth of admire and love.
    So, who we choose?

    • #13 by talktrueblood on September 22, 2010 - 12:26 am

      I did include that Bill hasn’t been forthcoming about his less than steller past. to say the least. haha
      I have a fellow blogger that when in depth concerning Bill’s past and what it meant about who Bill really was before season 3.
      Do you want the link?
      I think having Liam, Dianne, and Malcolm at his house early on in the season was the first indication that Bill was not truly mainstreaming.
      Bill has killed more in the past 150 years or been responsible for more murders than Eric has in the last 1000, I am sure, although if Eric did kill it was more for self defense, duty, or necessity.

      Bill is definitely abusive toward women and others in general.
      Bill uses his partiarchy with Sookie and used it with Lorena despite the fact she was stronger and supposed to be his superior.

      That is why Godric choose Eric I think: his bravery and loyalty and the love he inspired.

      • #14 by anette on September 22, 2010 - 5:01 pm

        if I would be a maker, I would choose Eric, for sure.

        And what about else in TB?

        Who would be a good vampire? If you could turn someone, who would you choose?

        I think Laffy was right on himself, he would be pretty good Vampire. Also – Sookie, i think Eric was right in her 1 dream (my fav): she has good temperament for a vampire. And Hoyt, just because I think she brings the best from Jessica, without him she wouldn’t be sweet or calm, and they could became first vamp happy family 😉

        And who’s turning would be a terrible idea? For me: Tara, she as a vampire brings a trouble bell in my head. Arlene: in different way, but also bad idea. Ginger, hahaha, vampire without brain at all.

      • #15 by talktrueblood on September 23, 2010 - 9:27 pm

        I think Lafayette would make a better witch than vampire at this point.
        I am trying to think of who would make a good turning, I am at a loss for who would…

        HAHAH i agree with those who should not be turned and I am also going to go with Jason…

  6. #16 by Caroline on September 21, 2010 - 7:50 pm

    TTB we are going to have to go over more things like this because at my count we have oh 261 days until season 4 starts. I haven’t read the article yet but I saw a link today that was like can bill be forgiven? and of course right now i am all HELL TO THE NO HE CANNOT he needs to rot with his self loathing, sanctimonious bullshit excuses for awhile. I am just worried that even if we get the Season 4 stuff of Eric/Sookie that the majority of fans want that overtime Eric is going to get thrown under the bus so Bill and Sookie can get together. I am still wondering though if we just cannot trust anything Allen ball says I know he publicly revealed himself at comi-con to be a B/S shipper but maybe he was just emphasizing that to throw us off? I also wonder if he would have been so forthcoming with those comments if Askars has actually been in attendance. Hmmmmm.

    Oh and on the Buddhist ideas front-I am wondering if Godric is in some sort of “bardo” realm that is neither here nor there. (The whole soul thing can get kind of tricky and also that was a major part of the Buffy universe so I think they may steer away from that)

    • #17 by talktrueblood on September 21, 2010 - 11:10 pm

      I don’t think AB ships anyone really. He is trying to create the most interesting story in his mind…whatever that is…without taking the characters or story completely out of context.
      I think AB considers Bill an interesting character but doesn’t really love him beyond that. Remember, AB ended up making Bill worse than the books though he could have made it
      just like the books or lessened it up to make Bill look better to the audience and what not.

      I think we should ignore AB unless it’s a straightforward spoiler. I think AB tends to talk from the character perspectives at the time and not really from his own opinion or the direction
      of the plot.

      That was the main thing that annoyed me about the Buffyverse…the over emphasis on souls. I was really hoping that won’t go there…
      That is good idea about the realms concerning Godric. I think maybe Godric is also too busy trying to look after Eric to completely “cross over,” whatever that means on true blood.
      I think he is also trying to bring Eric and Sookie together (sookie looking after eric was one of his last words/wishes).

  7. #18 by Caroline on September 21, 2010 - 11:43 pm

    Re: AB-good advice although I worry about his safety sometimes hopefully no one knows where he lives 😉

    Since Godric’s appearance in the finale I keep going back to the exchange between Sookie and Godric on the roof (S2 ep9) where they speak about God and Forgiveness and where the connection could lie in term of Godric’s appearance to Eric. I am torn I think Godric is “in-between”, I think he represents an aspect of Eric’s subconscious. I feel like the whole thing is pretty significant to have introduced and not followed up on. I mean I will be disappointed if we come to discover that it was just a device to not kill Russell.

  8. #19 by Ella on September 22, 2010 - 11:24 pm

    Fabulous post! I loved it! I think the almost draining of Sookie in the van is worth two X’s. The Rats portion also deserves two X’s. What about Bill trying to assault Jason after finding out Sookie being missing, that deserves an X. Yeah, Jason got out of it by rescinding his invitation, but I think that he would have hurt Jason if he didn’t fly out the door.

    • #20 by talktrueblood on September 23, 2010 - 9:30 pm

      hahah I agree with the double x’s but I wanted to appear as objective as possible.

      ummm I wonder if Bill would have really hurt Jason and if he will mention it to sookie…

  9. #21 by Sarah on September 23, 2010 - 5:03 pm

    I liked this comparison very much because it shows the difference between subjective perception (Eric, “the villain” and Bill “the mainstreaming, brooding vampire”) and empirical data.
    A lot of TB characters are portayed as searching for enlightenment and awareness but it is intriguing that the series itself makes us do the same thing. We are forced to question simple explanations and traditional tropes. Instead we should learn to use our own brains and to be critical and mature viewers.
    By reading your post I saw for the first time how different Bill and Eric´s approach to rules is. Eric seemingly is portayed as the bad boy and we see him rejecting certain authority figures likes Nan in S2 after Dallas. However we learn that Eric generally sticks to the Vampire law which is symbolized by his job as sheriff. He only rejects the traditional order if it fails to fulfil his aim, maintaining peace and justice.
    Bill on the other hand is perceived as the “good” one, as the mainstreamer. But we also are shown that he neither accepts human nor vampire law. He kills humans (mainstreamer, huh?), betrays every single vampire authority in his life (Lorena, SA and RE) and neglects his offspring (what would happen if every vampire would be that selfish? Vampires would cease to exist in the long run).
    Eric in a nutshell is the “good rebell” to me. He knows that certain rules are important but he is also too intelligent for blind obedience. He reflects things. In contrast Bill plays the upright citizen while secretly using the same social-dawinist ideolgy as RE. As slave owner he had power over life and death and even today he thinks that it is his right to judge people´s worth.

  10. #22 by Enjoying on September 23, 2010 - 5:08 pm

    Love it .
    St Bill is going to be showed what he is .

  11. #24 by Hime on September 23, 2010 - 10:44 pm

    Both Bill and Eric are flawed characters. Neither of them is pure good or evil. Still, the casual observer would say that Bill i s the good guy and Eric the villain, as you can read in every quick review of the show.
    So what is that makes a causal viewer think so? the fact that he/she tends to assume that what Bill says is true without questioning anything. Bill feels threatened by Eric, so does the viewer, who tends to see things through Sookie’s eyes. And since Sookie trusts Bill and not Eric, so does the casual observer. But things aren’t so simple, and the evidence of who is really doing bad things is right under our eyes. It only takes a little effort to dig deeper and question what we see.
    And the evidence is that Bill does unnecessary killing, not Eric. Bill is concealing his true nature, not Eric. Bill revels in blood lust, not Eric.
    Bill lies. So does Eric. But Bill lied to HIS FIANCEE, his beloved miracle. Many times. For very important things, things about her, about him, about her relationship. And his lies are masterpieces of deceiving: the reason why he came back to BT in the first place, the truth about the Rattrays, the consequences of his blood exchange with Sookie, Uncle Bartlett’s death, Jessica, his sexual encounters with Lorena, his visits to the Queen, the secret file, … HER FAIRY BLOOD and what it enables vampires to do.
    On the other hand, Eric. What are his lies?
    “Suck the bullet out or I will die”?
    “Never heard of these werewolves”?
    “You mean nothing to me”?
    Those are the lies of a 5 y o boy. Everytime Eric tells a lie there are red neons above his head saying “I’m not telling the truth!”. Eric is really a terrible liar and he is especially with people he cares for.

    • #25 by talktrueblood on September 24, 2010 - 7:53 pm

      Every character on true blood is flawed in some way.

      when eric does not kill out of necessity, he kills because of duty or to avenge the ones he loves.

      Eric is a terrible liar and that is one of the most endeering things about him.
      He even immediantly owned up about those lies..
      1. “Suck the bullet out or I will die”?
      he admits the truth as soon as confronted.
      2.“Never heard of these werewolves”?
      told her the truth the next day.
      3.“You mean nothing to me”?
      tells her his last wish is to kiss her 4 episodes later.

      (4. Sucks up to Russell)
      Kills Talbot 2 epis later and comes clean at the musuem 5 episodes later.

      (5. lies to the magister)
      tells him the truth after Russell backs him up, 6 epis later if you count episode 3×01, 3 if you count pam taken in 3×04.

  12. #26 by anna on September 23, 2010 - 11:21 pm

    It’s really great to see Bill & Eric’s actions laid out objectively throughout the seasons, it really makes it clear how much they differ.
    I’m not sure about Godric & the bardo since vampires have already died as humans and become something else, though they still have their human characteristics good and bad.
    From the Tibetan Buddhist point of view if vampires do experience the bardo states then Godric might have attained some degree of enlightenment during his time there. He could also be following the Bodhisattva ideal and choosing to remain around to help others.
    The true death could be seen as dying to the world of samsara and that’s where the idea of peace following from death may come from.
    Hopefully someone will correct me if I’m way off the mark!

    • #27 by talktrueblood on September 24, 2010 - 7:56 pm

      I knew this article would not work coming from my biased opinion 😉
      Though my biased opinion is based on facts.

      Oooooo nice ideas concering Godric.
      I am very curious when it comes to explaining Godric’s “state” with Eric.
      That is very true, I have studided religions, including Buddhism.

      • #28 by anna on September 24, 2010 - 8:48 pm

        In theory, I’m supposed to be a specialist!

      • #29 by talktrueblood on September 26, 2010 - 4:51 am

        how? : )

  13. #30 by Caroline on September 24, 2010 - 1:19 am

    @ anna I like the samsara idea-Godric’s appearance in the finale is definitely something I am going to be thinking of for awhile. I feel like I cannot quite figure out what is going on there and I want to know. Really LOVING everyone’s insights one of the best things about TB is all the different levels of things going on.

    • #31 by talktrueblood on September 24, 2010 - 7:57 pm

      peace is just about the main Buddisht idea, which comes from releasing your suffering/ attachement to the world.
      (it seemed as though Godric was almost emphazing that idea) imo.

      • #32 by anna on September 24, 2010 - 8:59 pm

        In a previous episode Godric also talks to Eric about the negative effect his emotions has on him. It’s Eric’s clinging or grasping to his quest for revenge that is the driving force for much of the season and which probably sets the wheel spinning for some of the next season’s story lines.

      • #33 by talktrueblood on September 26, 2010 - 4:41 am

        There will consequences for Eric seeking vengeance I am sure (whether we/he feels it was justified or not)
        and I bet we can figure out what those are ; )

  14. #34 by Caroline on September 25, 2010 - 12:52 pm

    TTB Just wanted to say I discovered TBU+TAP this week ( in addition to finding you 2 weeks ago) so my head is like spinning and my eyeballs are about to come out of my head (in a good way) I am so pleased to see people connecting various dots some of which I realize now I was picking up on subconsciously. Please don’t stop I mean we haven’t even made it to winter yet. so appreciative of your hard work.

    • #35 by talktrueblood on September 26, 2010 - 4:39 am

      Thank you and TBU and TAP rock my world. They inspired me.

      Oh I won’t be. I am going to be working on a good deeds piece to counter this one.

  15. #36 by Flora Besecker on September 27, 2010 - 2:00 am

    Fantastic blog! I actually love how it is easy on my eyes as well as the information are well written. I am wondering how I can be notified whenever a new post has been made. I have subscribed to your rss feed which should do the trick! Have a nice day!

    • #37 by talktrueblood on September 27, 2010 - 11:46 pm

      Thank you and welcome to my blog Flora!
      I love all my readers and no matter what, whenever you have a question or comment…just write it/ask it…
      I always respond as soon as I can if something is directed at me.

  16. #38 by BloodboundNorse on October 7, 2010 - 10:29 pm

    Thanks for this! I do appreciate the objectiveness and like the vast difference btwn the # of x’s for Bill, but Eric calling Lorena in s2 should be an x. You could say the danger to Sookie all started by that small action. Sure, Bill made it worse by falling for RE’s trap & going to Alcide’s apartment and outright leading RE to Sookie and her powers. But, do you know what Eric’s motivation was for calling Lorena other than him wanting to spend more time with Sookie somehow?

    I dont think he knew Bill as well as he thought he did if he thought calling Bill’s maker was going to keep him in line. Eric said so himself in S1, “if your the poster boy for mainstreaming then they are in trouble, etc.” Bill doesnt respect the maker/child relationship either in addition to vamp etiquette at all, sooo unlike Eric.

    • #39 by talktrueblood on October 8, 2010 - 8:05 pm

      Very good opinions.
      I appreciate any opinions in adding or taking away X’s….as well as checks in the next article.

      Well I am not sure that Eric did realize the extent of Bill’s hatred for Lorena. It’s not something Bill talked about often, especially not even with Sookie.
      I also did genuinely believe that Eric knew that Bill would not act rationally and calmly in the church and would put the entire operation at risk and everyone’s life or undead life…
      he did threaten to kill everyone if Sookie died when he arrived.
      Therefore, Eric was being honest when he responded to Sookie:
      “Why isn’t Bill here?”
      “…he would kill every man, woman, child in here just to save you.”

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